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Post by lesd on May 22, 2016 19:06:10 GMT 1
Final scores:
Algar 2-0 Sangonera Minerva 2-1 Bala Azul Aguileno 2-7 Cieza Mazarron 5-0 Juvenia
Points totals:
Cieza 59 Algar 58 Minerva 58 Mazarron 57
We now have to wait to see if the extra 2 teams for the Tercera next season mean Mazarron will have a chance of promotion.
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Post by lesd on May 22, 2016 23:59:09 GMT 1
Still to be officially confirmed, but it seems there will be FOUR automatic promotions from the Preferente to the Tercera:
Sangonera, La Hoya B, Totana and Cieza.
The remaining two teams in the top-6 (Algar and Minerva) will play for ONE further promotion from the play-offs.
These FIVE promotions, less the three teams relegated to the Preferente will bring the Tercera up to 20 teams.
Mazarrón miss out unless there are TWO Tercera teams who succeed in gaining promotion to Segunda B. In this case, the losing Preferente playoff team and Mazarron would get promoted.
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Post by steve on May 24, 2016 11:36:38 GMT 1
AND THE PLOT THICKENS
How strange, we know that three teams have been relegated from the Trecera division, the division above ours.
We know that the Tercera division is expanding from 18 to 20 teams for next season so you would think that would mean five teams from the Preferente would gain promotion.
You would also think that the top two in the the Preferente, Sangonera and La Hoya, would go up by rights as they finished first and second and then third placed Totana and fourth placed Cieza would also be promoted to fill those two new places in the Tercera and that the last promotion place being a straight fight between 5th placed Algar and 6th placed Minerva.
But not on your Nelly. They don't do simple over here.
The federation, in their infinite wisdom have said that there is going to be a full round of playoffs starting next Sunday for three of the five promotion places. The first games are:-
Minerva v Totana Algar v Cieza
There are a number of 'what if's' leading from this decision including 3rd placed Totana not being promoted whilst 6th placed Minerva going up.
Confused? I am, watch this space for developments.
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Post by lesd on May 24, 2016 17:36:29 GMT 1
Hmmm....not sure about that. Where did you source that bombshell?
As usual, it's not only a case of translating Spanish, but trying to understand what they were trying to say.
According to Trecera.com:
"Promoted two teams directly to their rightful by rating: Sangonera Atl. (1st place) and La Hoya Lorca B (2nd place). Promoted two more teams qualifying directly following the 18-team league expanded to 20: Olympic Totana (3rd place) and Cieza (ranked 4th). Promoted the winner of the playoffs that played Olympic Totana, Cieza, Algar (5th place) and Minerva (6th place). If there is a promotion from Tercera Division to Second B, would raise the 5th position (Algar) and 6th place (Minerva) Preferente to Tercera, regardless of what has happened in the playoffs. If more than one promotion to Second Division B, would raise the 7th-placed, 8th ... and so on, following the classification. Keep in mind that in case any Segunda B team is not entered in that category, giving up their place, and do it in Third, there would be a square less than Preemptive rise to third."
(I haven't got a clue what the last sentence means.)
The third sentence is the confusion. How on earth can Totana and Cieza play in playoffs if they've already been promoted.
Certainly, Totana claimed the promotion on 8th May following their win over Juvenia.
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Post by steve on May 24, 2016 18:37:03 GMT 1
The match details are on the FFRM site:- Partidos-central-playoff Preferente autonomica- play off ascenso
Follow that trail and it takes you to the semi final fixtures for the 29th May
I saw the info you posted on the Trecera site but it's the federation after all running this show.
Minerva v Totana kickoff 7pm (19.00) Sunday 29th May
Algar v Cieza kickoff 7.30pm (19.30) Sunday 29th May
Return legs scheduled for 5th June
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Post by lesd on May 24, 2016 22:00:45 GMT 1
Mind you, the whole play-off fiasco could be irrelevant.
Lorca won the away leg of their play-off in Cordoba 2-1. As champions of Group 13, they only have to play one play-off tie to gain promotion to 2B.
If that happens, ALL top 6 in the Preferente will go up to the Tercera anyway.
Which will be even more galling for Mazarrón!
But there's always hope. As Jose said, if both Lorca AND Aguilas win through the playoffs, Mazarrón will be next in line.
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Post by steve on May 30, 2016 8:53:45 GMT 1
OH DEAR, THE CAT IS AMONGST THE PIGEONS In the first leg of the playoffs 3rd placed Totana lost 3-1 away at 6th placed Minerva who went down to ten men for the last 15 minutes. The second leg is at Totana next weekend. Come on Minerva!!! The other playoff match finished as a 2-0 win for Algar against Cieza so still all to play for there.
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Post by lesd on May 30, 2016 10:30:17 GMT 1
Mind you, the whole play-off fiasco could be irrelevant. Lorca won the away leg of their play-off in Cordoba 2-1. As champions of Group 13, they only have to play one play-off tie to gain promotion to 2B. If that happens, ALL top 6 in the Preferente will go up to the Tercera anyway. Which will be even more galling for Mazarrón! But there's always hope. As Jose said, if both Lorca AND Aguilas win through the playoffs, Mazarrón will be next in line. But.....Lorca blew it, losing 0-3 at home! However, they will have a second chance as the losing Campeones go into the second phase with the other promotion hopefuls including Aguilas and Mar Menor who both won through the first phase.
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Post by lesd on May 31, 2016 14:38:33 GMT 1
OH DEAR, THE CAT IS AMONGST THE PIGEONS In the first leg of the playoffs 3rd placed Totana lost 3-1 away at 6th placed Minerva who went down to ten men for the last 15 minutes. The second leg is at Totana next weekend. Come on Minerva!!! The other playoff match finished as a 0-0 draw between Cieza and Algar so all to play for there. The Fed are winding you up again!!! Final score at Algar... 29-05-2016- 19:30 C.D. ALGAR 2 - 0 C.D. CIEZA Campo: ESTADIO SANCHEZ LUENGO - Cesped Artificial Árbitro: CAMPOS SALINAS, DAVID I reckon the Fed told Totana and Cieza to let the other two win so they could have a meaningful playoff final. Meanwhile, in the Primera division playoffs... 28-05-2016- 18:00 C.D. LUMBRERAS 0 - 0 ALCANTARILLA F.C. Campo: POLIDEPORTIVO MPAL. DE PUERTO LUMBRERAS Árbitro: IZQUIERDO GARCIA, JESUS 29-05-2016- 19:00 BALSICAS A.T.L 0 - 0 C.D. ESPARRAGAL Campo: MPAL. LOS CIPRESES Árbitro: PERAN ALCARAZ, DANIEL But do we believe them???
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Post by steve on Jun 5, 2016 17:16:07 GMT 1
PREFERENTE PLAYOFFS
Trecera.com have Saturday's result as a 3-2 home win for 4th placed Cieza against 5th placed Algar but with the first leg finishing 2-0 to Algar that gives them a 4-3 winning aggregate.
Meanwhile the FFRM site still has the scoreline as 0-0, no change there then.
We now await the 3rd placed Totana v the 6th placed Minerva result on Sunday, Minerva won the first leg 3-1 so Totana have a lot to do.
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Post by lesd on Jun 5, 2016 21:10:17 GMT 1
Final Scores:
Cieza 3-2 Algar (Agg: 3-4) ... confirmed on Algar Twitter feed. Totana 2-2 Minerva (Agg: 3-5)
The Fed will be happy! Final will be Minerva vs Algar.
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Post by lesd on Jun 5, 2016 21:19:16 GMT 1
Meanwhile, in the Primera playoffs, it must have been a bonza final few minutes at Alcantarilla!!!
At 88 minutes, Alcantarilla were leading Lumbreras 2-0
Then...
3-0 BELTRAN MARTINEZ PABLO (88') 4-0 GARCIA CESPEDES JOSE (89')
Tarjetas...
ALCANTARILLA:
PELEGRIN RODRIGUEZ BENITO (88') ... roja.
LUMBRERAS: REVERTE ABELLANEDA ALEJANDRO (88') SANCHEZ MARTINEZ JOSE MANUEL (88') ... roja. BAYONAS VALERA BENITO (89') RODRIGUEZ PEREZ ALFONSO DAVID (89') RODRIGUEZ PEREZ ALFONSO DAVID (89')
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Post by steve on Jun 5, 2016 21:54:51 GMT 1
Final Scores: Cieza 3-2 Algar (Agg: 3-4) ... confirmed on Algar Twitter feed. Totana 2-2 Minerva (Agg: 3-5) The Fed will be happy! Final will be Minerva vs Algar. So that's the 3rd and 4th placed sides knocked out of the playoffs, it's a good job that their promotion is already assured, and the 5th and 6th placed sides playoff for the other promotion place. Bit convenient that isn't it? And at the end of the day they could all go up depending on other results.
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Post by lesd on Jun 10, 2016 22:09:07 GMT 1
The Fed are still persisting with the standard two plus one promotion outcome! Their website is saying the winner of the Minerva versus Algar games will be promoted together with Sangonera and La Hoya!
After that, to make up the Tercera numbers to 20, they will, presumably, take the next two highest from the Preferente into the Tercera. Those two being Totana and Cieza.
If any of the Tercera teams make it through to Segunda B, they will then take the next highest team(s) up.
All a bit Spanish really!
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Post by lesd on Jun 12, 2016 20:15:09 GMT 1
Preferente Play-off:
First leg result
SFC Minerva 1-0 CD Algar
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